IX-Answers to objections.
Some who defend the Catholic baptism as valid baptism, which should be accepted by the Reformed, could advocate on their behalf saying:
1 - It is played using the element and the biblical rite, so it should be considered valid.
Rebuttal to this objection:
easily find that is not enough to practice the ritual using the biblical baptismal formula "in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit" and use water as the essential in the rite, it would have to accept, therefore, Mormon baptism, which is administered in the "name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit" and using the water element.
To rebut that we should accept Mormon baptism, which would follow the reasoning above employ a Catholic objection:
"The requirements of the Catholic Church to recognize the baptism are four types: subject of the sacrament, its form and intention of the minister disposition of the subject line.
matter with no problem: water. With regard to form, the formula used by Mormons says: "Having received the mandate of Christ, I baptize you in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, "but says the theologian, no true invocation of the Holy Trinity because the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three persons in which subsists one God but three gods who form one divinity. "(The Trinity is not Mormons Christians
The Church does not recognize the baptism of the sect) http://www.geocities.com/iafobi/materiales/mormones . html
Finding that no genuine church accept Mormon baptism as valid, this argument is moot.
2 - If you do not accept Catholic baptism would be denying the apostolic church. Even
is easier to refute this objection as above.
According to the Roman Catholic Church, the Catholic and Apostolic Church is in three aspects:
1. It is planted in the world by the Apostles.
2. It adheres to the teachings of the Apostles.
3. That continues in succession the apostolic ministry.
apostolic succession is for this that the Roman Catholic Church claims a unique authority to interpret Scripture and to establish the doctrine, as well as the claim of having a supreme leader in the Pope who is infallible (without error) when he speaks "ex cathedra "- that is in the exercise of his office as pastor and teacher of all Christians. Therefore, in accordance with the position of Roman Catholic teaching and traditions of the Roman Catholic Church, having come from the Pope, are infallible and as authoritative as the Scriptures themselves. This is one of the major differences between Roman Catholics and Protestants, and was one of the fundamental reasons for the Protestant Reformation.
According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, this apostolic succession "is found only in the Catholic Church" and no "separate church has any valid claim to it."
However, the Protestant Reformation rejected the "apostolic succession" or at least changed the concept, arguing that this refers only to those who preach the "true" doctrine, regardless of their connection to the past or the Apostolic Church.
The teachings of a church or denomination are authoritative and binding for Christians only if they represent the true meaning and the clear teaching of Scripture. This is an important consideration when it comes to understanding the connection between Protestantism and the Roman Catholic Church, and why was the Reformation Protestante.http: / / www.gotquestions.org/Espanol/ Reform-Protestante.html
Accordingly, reject Catholic baptism does not contain the denial of any essential doctrine of the Christian faith.
3 - The reformers are not renamed. This meant that although they recognized the errors of Rome, recognized as valid baptism.
On this approach we must agree with Calvin and Luther considered valid Catholic baptism, in fact, John Calvin in The Institutes of Christian Religion describes the Roman Catholic Church as a picture of Babylon, but where there were still remnants of the True Church, such as the true baptism. This view is understandable because despite all the atrocities and corruption of the Church of Rome had not yet produced the Council of Trent in which anathematized the Protestant Reformation were adopted and reaffirmed heretical dogmas increasingly divorced that human institution of the Church of Jesus Christ.
XXII: Held on September 17, 1562. Doctrine of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. The Eucharist is dogmatically defined as a real atonement in which the bread and wine are transformed into real flesh and blood of Christ. Moral reform of the clergy, the administration of religious endowments and ecclesiastical requirements for holding office.
XXV: Held on 3 and 4 December 1563. Decree on Purgatory. They reaffirm the existence of purgatory and veneration of saints and relics. Reform of the monastic orders. Abolition of concubinage in church. Pope was left to the task of preparing a list of banned books, the development of a catechism and the revision of the Breviary and Missal. Of the Trinity and Incarnation (against the unit). Tridentine profession of faith. Closure of the council.
Most of their decisions focused on the following points:
1) against the Protestants, who admitted as the sole authority of the Scriptures, saying that the tradition (the interpretations of the Fathers of the Church, popes and councils) constitutes, with the Scriptures, one of the foundations of faith, and that the only text Authentic the Bible is the Vulgate Latin translation by St. Jerome, on a fourth-century Greek text.
2) confirmed and defined the dogmas and practices rejected by Protestants (Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist in the elements (transubstantiation), justification by faith and works, conservation of the seven sacraments, indulgences, the veneration of the Virgin Mary and the saints, etc..) rigorous setting the boundary between orthodoxy and heresy, completing the break between the Catholic Church and Protestants.
3) fortified the hierarchy and thus the Catholic unity, asserting the supremacy strongly Pope's "Universal Pastor of the whole Church" and, implicitly, its superiority over councils. The Council of Trent was paramount, and decisions taken, did the Roman Catholic Church "traditional." (Ie worsened the evils that the Reformation sought to correct).
(Accessed: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concilio_de_Trento)
Another explanation is that clear to the reform, this was the only visible church, therefore, despite his apostasy and sin, had the authority Bible, given to the Church of Jesus Christ to practice the sacrament of baptism, therefore that before the Reformation had been baptized by the Roman Catholic Church, had been baptized with the authority of the Church of Christ. Upon the Reformation, the Catholic Church reused hear God's call to purity and holiness, and steadfast in his apostasy, the rejection by the Council of Trent's work and the work of reformers such as required and guided by the Lord stood itself in terms of a human institution which broke ties with the Church of Jesus Christ. This is the reason that although the reformers and their contemporaries were not baptized when converted to the Protestant faith, today it is necessary to do so with those from the Church of Rome.
4 - If we reject Catholic baptism for doctrinal reasons, we should also reject the other evangelical denominations.
While some evangelical churches do not accept the idea of \u200b\u200bbaptism as a sacrament, as in the case of the Pentecostal Assemblies of God Church and the Baptist Church, to cite just two examples, these churches granted an important role in the ecclesiology and practiced with fidelity to the Word, they deny the term sacrament, which read "ordinance", which we think means the same.
Baptism, besides being a sign of profession is also a sign of regeneration or new birth, this is the general meaning baptism for the evangelical churches, definition with which we agree.
Other Protestant denominations such as Methodist, does consider baptism as a sacrament.
"Sacraments instituted by Christ are not only signs or symbols of the profession of Christians but sure evidence of grace and goodwill of God toward us, by which He works invisibly in us." "The baptism of infants should be kept in the Church."
(Articles of Faith of the IMP, XVI and XVII)
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