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Women in the Bible

Continuing advocacy on the role of women in the church and letting Bilbi scrutinize the talk:
Proposition: If God said that women do not speak in church and do not teach to men, violate this commandment is sin.
Then: If you can prove that there is one woman who speaks or prophet or taught to men by God the statement is false. Let

teaches us AT:
1 - Gn.1 :27-28. God created man (male and female) and gives both power, dominance and authority.
2 - The woman is man's helpmate. Gn.2: 18.
3 - The submission to her husband is introduced as a punishment for sin. Gn.3: 16.

Lib. Ex:
1 - Ex.15: 20 is referred to Mary as a prophet. In this particular passage is seen dancing and singing with other women. Later we will see that Mary is a prophetess of office too.

Lib.
No. 1 - Mary (the sister of Moses mentioned above) claims that God has spoken through her. No. 12 :1-2. In the vrs.6 is a confirmation of God's prophetic mission of Mary. The Lord says to the other prophets He speaks through visions, dreams, etc, but Moses face to face. At no time is refuted the claim of Mary that she is a prophet and that God has spoken through her, but only says that Moses is a prophet "better." Although in this context we see Mary doing something wrong so it is punished, their punishment does not come by prophet but by murmuring against Moses.

Lib. Judges.
1 - Deborah: Judge and prophetess of all Israel (men included). Juec.4 4. "The children of Israel came up to her trial."
Suppose this time ruled by a woman because at this time "everyone did as he saw fit." If it was immoral for a woman to govern and prophesy then was that it was sin, and God used it. Remember that the principles of Jah is eternal and inviolable moral edicts. Let's see what the Bible says about prophecy:
2Pe.1: 21 "For prophecy never came by the will of man ..." So if prophetess Deborah was by the will of God (like Mary).

Lib. 2 Chron
1 to 2 Cr.34 :22-28. "And Hilkiah, and the King went to Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Salum son of Tikvah, son of Harhas, keeper of the wardrobe, she dwelt in Jerusalem in the second quarter, and said those words before. "
prophetess Hulda, was consulted by Josiah on the book of the law, this implies that it was considered an authority. Even instructs a king (male).
was again mentioned in 2 Kings 22:14

Lib.

D 1 - D 31:10 - Here we change the prespective of women in the OT, is shown even in business, trade purely masculine.

Lib. Joel.
1 - Joel 2:28 "... and your sons and prophesy your daughters ... "This is repeated on the occasion of Pentecost Hch.2 :16-21. Understanding this as a spiritual gift and knowing that are used to the glory of God and edification of the congregation can see that is to be used in the congregation!



NT 1 - Mr. 15:40-41 Women as disciples. Revolutionary for its time.
2 - Luke 2:36 "And there was Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Asher, very old, having lived with her husband seven years from her virginity"
3 - Hch.21: 9 prophetess daughters of Philip.

4-Acts 18:26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue, but when Priscilla and Aquila heard him, took him aside and explained to him more accurately the path of God.
Priscilla taught Apollos.
5 - 1Co.11: 5 It shows clearly the provisions of Paul for a woman to pray or prophesy in PUBLIC.
"Every man praying or prophesying with his head covered dishonors his head.
But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head: for this is that if she were shaven."
here refers not to how women should dress in worship, but it is clear that is a provision (very context according to me) how should this prophesy and pray in the previous verse are the rules for how to do men.
6 - Rom.16 :1-3
"I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a servant of the church in Cenchrea;
to receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints, and help her in whatever she may need from you, because she has helped many, including me.
Greet Priscilla and Aquila, my helpers in Christ Jesus "
deaconess Phoebe. The word used to define as deaconess Phoebe is identical to that used for males, it was exactly the same office.
7 - 1Co.4: 34 "Let your women keep silence in the congregation ... if you want to learn anything let them ask their husbands. "Two apparently contradictory arguments in the same letter (1Co.11: 5 and 1Co.4: 34) In light of 1Co.11: 5 seems to indicate that Paul was referring to a problem very typical of this church where the parecer algunas mujeres interrumpían la profecía o enseñanza para preguntar y causaban desorden.
*7- 1Ti.2:11-15 ¿Cambió Pablo de concepto?¿Cómo explican 1Co.11? Si este pasaje es tan radical cómo podemos entender que Priscila enseñó a Apolo o Hulda a Josías y Débora a Barac? En este texto vemos a Pablo empleando los mismos argumentos de quien fue creado primero y quien fue creado por causa de quien, empleado en 1Co. para defender un problema ético contextual, el uso del velo. O sea, que aducir que este texto tiene un significado eterno en virtud de que los argumentos paulinos son una verdad eterna es futil, debido a que los vemos empleando estos mismos argumentos para defender una verdad contextual. Yes
defends a literal interpretation of this passage, what I say about those who can not have children ???????
I think that in light of the rest of the Bible has to interpret this passage also, why out of a context that shows women to exercise leadership, teaching and prophesying.
If you take into account the historical context in which it was written this passage is easy to assume it is due to a confrontation with the pater familias trying not to lose what they saw as their "control." Something like what happened in the Jerusalem council which adopted measures, which were awards for those who advocated had to meet certain rites of the law, which prohibits only to seek harmony "drowning or blood ..."
deutorocanónicos In texts like the Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of Philip, Pistis Sophia and the Gospel of Mary (II-IV), to name a few, there are remnants of the confrontation between various sectors of the Church. These groups are embodied in a disciple of first hour. His dialogues denote the problems they faced, and one of them was, without doubt, the role of women. These texts, despite not having any theological value we can shed light on the historical context in which they were written.

In the Gospel of Thomas (II), Peter goes on to say of Mary Magdalene: 'Lord, Mary
depart from among us, because women do not deserve life (114) »44. In the Gospel of Mary
(II), the risen Christ has just disappeared, leaving the bereaved disciples
. Mary Magdalene comforts them and, at the request of Peter, I
discover the revelation that Jesus spoke only to her. When finished, Andrew said: "I do not believe that the Savior could say those things." Peter, in turn, says: "Is that the Savior has been talking to a woman without knowing us? Do we have to listen to favorite like us? ". Levi responds: "Peter, I note that you are angry, treat women as if they were the enemy. If the Lord has made her worthy, who are you indeed to reject her? Surely the Lord knows. So love her more than us ... "(15 - 18).

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Declaration of the Christian Reformed Church in Cuba on measures in relation to homosexuals.

Jaguey Grande, June 29, 2008

of the National Executive Committee of the Evangelical Mission of the Interior. Legal Authority of the Christian Reformed Church in Cuba.

hereby wish to express our disagreement with the recently approved measure legalizing transsexual operations and our concern that modifications are made to the Family Code in order to legalize homosexual unions, raising them to the status of marriage and allow adopt children by homosexual couples and transsexuals.
After our members and congregants approached us conveying their concern and praying for guidance and direction of God have resolved to know our deepest disagreement. Our decision is not born of a sense of homophobia, as Christians advocate that every man or woman has been made in the image and likeness of God and deserves respect and consideration.
applaud the Cuban government devote its efforts to promote full social integration of any individual. Approve that the Cuban state, as is their duty, to ensure to all Cuban citizens fulfilling their most basic rights. However, when the Bible our only rule of faith, life and conduct, we disagree with these measures have been taken. God instituted the first human family. A man and woman, Adam and Eve were the first members. God blessed their union by saying "It's not good that man should be alone. I will help meet "and created to complement the woman. Woman complements complements man and man to women. God also said, "Be fruitful and multiply" and God saw that what he had done was very good.
In the creation story of Genesis we see the how the Lord designed the institution of marriage, we believe that the only way possible and everything should not be considered as such.
Our concern also arises from a real interest in the moral and ethics of our society. The family is the basic unit of society and any dysfunction or twisting occurs magnified it will manifest itself in society. So we understand that the social product of households consisting of two persons of the same sex is harmful and detrimental to Cuban society. We know
heed our words and take them into account. Rev.


Enrique M. Alvarez Cepero.
President of the National Executive Committee.

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Women in the Church

Debating in a forum I had to make apology for the work of women within the church, here I share my answer to the question of whether or not women can exercise leadership within the congregation there in the gospels
indisputable evidence of women's participation in the Jesus movement. These women are called disciples (akolouthein,
diakonein). As Mc 15.41, Lk 27.55 Mt from 8.1 to 3 these women have accompanied Jesus from Galilee. Learning at the feet of the Masters, something extremely revlucionario for the time when teachers did not accept disciples, only men.
remain faithful to the crucifixion when all the male disciples have fled fearing. Are the first to see Jesus resurrected. Explicit
is the passage of Galatians 3.28: "there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free
man and woman ...»,
Pauline epistles in the same outlines the ministerial work of women: Nymph of Laodicea (Col 4.15), Apia, together Archippus Philemon and directs another church in Colossae (Phil 1.2), Lydia at Philippi (Acts 16:15).
Paul mentions Phoebe, whom he calls "deacon" and "patron" or "president" of the church
Cenchreae (Rom 16:15), uses the same term to name the male deacons (no way to reduce or minimize the work of Phoebe without forcing the Scriptures, prostatitis (Chairman) Paul uses when referring to tasks of those who govern the community (1 Thess 5.12; 1 Tim 3.4, 5.17).).

When the Bible says:
Mary Tryphaena, and Persis says "have worked hard in the Lord, the same Greek verb is used (kopiao) that Paul used to describe his pastoral work or the colleagues (Rom 16.6 to 12).

One notable case that can not be ignored is that, being that at the time the person most respectable and greater dignity was mentioned before the rest, and this was a rule of conduct, it follows then that the marriage of Priscilla and Aquila, Priscilla was the most valuable collaborator and that Paul prefers honor rather than her husband, this marriage works in Rome, Ephesus and Corinth, where
founded several churches, as well as instruct Apollo (both note a woman instructing a man). Of the seven times they are nominated in four Prisca is listed first, reflecting the importance and
known (1 Cor 16.19; Rom 16.3-5, 2 Tim 4.19, Acts 18.1 - 3.18-26).
are also Philologist and Julia, Nereus and his "sister" probably marriage. Also Cephas and others ministered with their wives (1 Cor 9.5). Finally mentions Andronicus and Junia, the latter shares with her husband the title of "apostle", and whom the opponents of female workers preferred to change the gender before recognizing a woman to be called an apostle (Rom 16.7) .
far we can say that Paul recognizes and respects women's work and that this is not limited to clasesitas sewing to girls, but have been protagonists, together with the men on missions and the construction and consolidation of early church.

situation generates controversy in Ga 3.28, 1 Cor 7, Col 1 Cor 12.13, or 3.9 to 11, when Paul for very short-term issues of social impact refers to the tradition to bring order to a patriarchal and androcentric community inflexible and shocked.
One problem is manifested in worship (1 Cor 11.2 to 16). The prophesy
women as leaders in worship (1 Cor 11.5), and do her hair loose,
expressing his awareness of that freedom and equality that gave them faith in Jesus Christ.
It seems that scandalized some non-Christians who occasionally visited the community (1 Cor 14:23). Paul was not asked to stop praying or prophesying, but what do
covers, that will not break those social conventions, as they had done
until then.
who want to see in Paul's words an order compelling for all women in any situation and this order as a final rule that women should remain silent and seated in the congregation, giving birth to children for salvation, you have to recognize ( applying the same reasoning) that the Bible upholds slavery and promotes 1Pe 2:18 Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters respectfully, not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.
No Christian would accept that the Bible tells you that calls upon the exploitation of man by man and assert escalvitud and any historical context to explain passages like these, but still do not understand how so fervently argue that women are decorative items in the church.
However, the Lord has a great sense of humor, because traditionally women have been at the forefront of the church in the bad times and good times, such as the founder of the Christian Reformed Church in Cuba (Bessie Vander Valk) was a woman, and so would be an endless list of modern women who followed the example of Phoebe, Priscilla and others, without requiring the recognition of men who also blessed to have worked and not as "compensatory failure, because knowing the unchangeable character of God, which for him is bad it is in all time, God does not violate its principles. We must recognize that if you say that women's work is wrong (in the sense that we are discussing) is wrong at all times and would never have named and used to Deborah as a judge and prophetess in Israel, hear God does not contradict! With all due respect, frankly I have always found laughable the argument of "compensatory failure."
God ordained that animals spoke and told Balaam's mule "as compensatory failure" but none will say that it is "immoral, illicit and wrong" that the animals talk, this really was a "failure compensatory." If it is wrong for women to speak in church even when they act to compensate for the inefficiency or absence of male leadership is just as bad, violate that which God has established as evil is evil at all times, and I think that the "failure compensatory" is a desperate effort to defend the indefensible and explain what the eyes androcentric explained. Ah, I think I have noticed but I also defend women's ordination.

In the strict sense of the word, true to an unbiased interpretation and without delving much as it is visible to the naked eye, God created woman to submit to man. Note that this is introduced as a punishment for sin: Gn.3: 16 A woman said: I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children, and your desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. (And in any case to whom I have to submit it to my husband, not the outside lol)
Rather, God gave both control and authority: Gn.1: 27 So God created man in His own image, image God created him, male and female he created them. 28 And God blessed them and said to them: Be fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth.
In short, everyone does a reading of the Bible affected by their own prejudices, is always going to be so, but the only place where women's work will bring problems will be within the male community and inflexible, if the work of women is accepted, respected and valued may be of utmost blessing.

(Material consulted "Women in the Church" by Carmen Bernabe Ubieta)